I imagine that there were quite a few double takes along the route, given the near pristine condition of the car, as rail fans who'd passed or been passed by the semi met it at various pit stops along the way. Of course, there's also the idea of all the folks along the road who've seen other cars, in states of advanced decay though show-room-new condition, pass along the road, and all of them wondering just what sort of transit system exists in San Francisco.

Hard to muster any comment aside from ... OMG! I cannot imagine the joy and hilarity of being so far from SF and seeing an F-Market car piggybacking on a trailer. I also can't help but imagine the thrill of getting the photo. I see it going down something like, "Holy crap! It's a PCC! No, no, don't get right beside it -- it's too big for the frame. Yeah, right about there. Got it!" Thanks for this!

Wow! Those bracket arms in the Pier 39 shot are beautiful! I walked by there when shooting the cars, but never noticed them,
believe it or not.

Is that what's planned for the Fort Mason Extension?

Lee Carlson

Yes, what is the future to be in our cities and travel in general?
Great film! Thanks!

Is there hope that we will ever recognise that expansion cannot go on forever in a limited world?

Things don't look very good right now!

Here's hoping the young can really make some good changes!

Amen,

Uncle Jim
Kailua, Hawaii

I fully agree with Chuck these rear end accidents are unacceptable especially on a right-of-way. This is getting old, these drivers must learn to take their jobs seriously and follow the rules for the sake of the equipment, the passengers, and the general public. Some of these drivers do not appear to respect or appreciate their jobs, Muni, or the history of the equipment they are operating and operating around. It might be time to "thin the herd" and hire drivers that will appreciate and respect their jobs. I know the good old drivers union will not allow this to happen, but at some point someone has to say enough is enough!

Note: out of towner viewpoint: Until recently, if I were going to be in MuniLand for a few days, I'd buy a monthly Senior pass and ride streetcars (and an occasional bus) to my heart's content. Suddenly it's not such a good deal for short visits. Of course, being old enough for a Senior pass means I can remember when Muni fare was 15 cents with free transfers.

It isn't just Muni. There have also been reports recently of collisions attributed to inattentive operators and poor maintenance on Boston's Green Line (nearest thing to Muni Metro in the US) and Washington DC Metro (which is more like BART, and should have fewer opportunities for "operator error", but reportedly has gotten to the point where riders who are "in the know" don't ride the first or last car in a Metro train)

Chuck, despite the fact that termination is likely when a Muni operator damages a historic streetcar, it needs to deal with the Union.

After learning of the 250 ft streetcar spacing, the operator should be terminated... This needs to be put in the contract as a no exception and should not be arbitrated. The operator knows the rules and should be Terminated! Doesn't Muni have enough budget problems than to continually repair streetcars damaged by incompetent operators.

Chuck
Redding, Ca.
Native San Franciscan

THIS HAS TO STOP!! All operators must be made aware, and made to obey, speed and separation limits. An accident like this should not happen, if operators are obeying the limits. MUNI is having enough problems, with lack of money and getting enough cars to meet the rider demand on the F line. Without now having to spend more to repair a Milan Tram and a LRV! Stop this already!! Hope the injured recover soon.

This will further exacerbate the F-Line equipment shortage.

Lee Carlson